{"id":3110897,"date":"2026-04-09T09:45:12","date_gmt":"2026-04-09T16:45:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/?post_type=tc_podcast&#038;p=3110897"},"modified":"2026-04-09T14:18:14","modified_gmt":"2026-04-09T21:18:14","slug":"there-is-a-right-way-to-approach-layoffs-with-ayal-yogev-anjuna","status":"publish","type":"tc_podcast","link":"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/podcast\/there-is-a-right-way-to-approach-layoffs-with-ayal-yogev-anjuna\/","title":{"rendered":"There is a right way to approach layoffs, with Ayal Yogev, Anjuna"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--56);margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--56);\" class=\"wp-block-tc23-podcast-player\">\n\t<iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"tcembed-iframe tcembed--megaphone wp-block-tc23-podcast-player__embed\" height=\"200px\" width=\"100%\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm?e=TCML8008837448\"><\/iframe>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\" class=\"has-text-align-left wp-block-paragraph\">This week\u2019s guest is Ayal Yogev, co-founder and CEO of Anjuna Security, who has experienced both sides of the startup journey: scaling quickly during the boom years and then making the incredibly difficult decision to lay off a significant portion of his team when the market shifted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From growing to 75 employees to scaling back and rebuilding, Yogev learned firsthand that the hardest part of leadership isn\u2019t hiring fast \u2014 it\u2019s making tough decisions with care, transparency, and integrity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode, Isabelle Johannessen and Yogev unpack what it really means to lead through layoffs with compassion and how founders can support their teams even in the most challenging moments. They also explore the lessons learned from scaling too quickly and how to build a more resilient company the second time around.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They discuss:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"wp-block-list-item\">How to approach layoffs with empathy and transparency.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"wp-block-list-item\">Ways to support employees beyond financial compensation.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"wp-block-list-item\">What founders get wrong about scaling and hiring.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"wp-block-list-item\">Why culture matters most during difficult moments.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"wp-block-list-item\">Lessons from rebuilding after layoffs.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Subscribe to Build Mode on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/build-mode\/id1561051074\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0Dqmcq2aDrZkS9v1fITOKV\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vWUZMNjEyNzkzNjQ5NA\">wherever you like to listen<\/a>. 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